Legislature(2011 - 2012)HOUSE FINANCE 519

01/23/2012 08:00 AM House LEGISLATIVE BUDGET & AUDIT


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08:05:13 AM Start
08:07:53 AM Approval of Minutes
08:08:29 AM Audit Requests
08:22:48 AM Other Committee Business
08:22:56 AM Adjourn
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Audit Requests
Other Committee Business
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
             LEGISLATIVE BUDGET AND AUDIT COMMITTEE                                                                           
                        January 23, 2012                                                                                        
                           8:05 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Hawker, Chair                                                                                               
Representative Mark Neuman                                                                                                      
Representative Kurt Olson                                                                                                       
Representative Bill Thomas                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bert Stedman, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Linda Menard                                                                                                            
Senator Thomas Wagoner                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Doogan                                                                                                      
Representative Scott Kawasaki (alternate)                                                                                       
Representative Bill Stoltze (alternate)                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kevin Meyer (alternate)                                                                                                 
Senator Hollis French                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
APPROVAL OF MINUTES                                                                                                             
AUDIT REQUESTS                                                                                                                  
OTHER COMMITTEE BUSINESS                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
KRISTIN CURTIS, Acting Legislative Auditor                                                                                      
Legislative Audit Division                                                                                                      
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided information on the status of                                                                    
current audits and on the new audit requests.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:05:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MIKE  HAWKER  called  the  Legislative  Budget  and  Audit                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 8:05  a.m. Representatives Hawker,                                                               
Thomas, Olson, and Neuman and  Senators Hoffman, Menard, Wagoner,                                                               
and Stedman were present at the call to order.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
^Approval of minutes                                                                                                          
                      Approval of minutes                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:07:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HAWKER announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
the approval of the minutes.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN made a motion  to approve the minutes of December                                                               
5, 2011.  There being no  objection, the minutes from the meeting                                                               
of December 5, 2011 were approved.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
^Audit Requests                                                                                                               
                         Audit Requests                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:08:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HAWKER announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
the annual status  update on current audits, as  well as requests                                                               
for two new audits.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
KRISTIN  CURTIS, Acting  Legislative  Auditor, Legislative  Audit                                                               
Division,  Alaska  State  Legislature, reported  on  the  current                                                               
ongoing  audits,  directing  attention to  the  statewide  single                                                               
audit, the  largest annual audit,  and noted that this  audit was                                                               
95 percent  complete, with anticipation  for presentation  at the                                                               
upcoming  scheduled February  27,  2012,  Legislative Budget  and                                                               
Audit Committee meeting.  She  declared that currently there were                                                               
five other special  audits being conducted, the  oldest being the                                                               
Alaska Statewide System for Employee  Time (ASSET).  She observed                                                               
that  this audit  had  begun in  January 2011,  as  the State  of                                                               
Alaska  had  anticipated  replacement  of its  current  time  and                                                               
attendance system  with this system in  December 2011, explaining                                                               
that time  and attendance  were integral  to the  payroll system.                                                               
She reported  that the  Division of  Finance had  rescheduled the                                                               
implementation of this  new system for June  2013; therefore, the                                                               
Legislative  Audit  Division  had   postponed  this  audit  until                                                               
January 2013.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CURTIS  summarized  the Film  Production  Incentive  Program                                                               
audit, which  focused on both  the financial and  the performance                                                               
issues.  She  noted that the financial aspect of  the project was                                                               
60  percent  complete with  an  anticipated  presentation of  the                                                               
audit preliminary to the committee  at its scheduled February 27,                                                               
2012, meeting.  She explained that  staffing for the audit of the                                                               
performance aspect  had just  been initiated,  and, as  there was                                                               
not yet an  approved scope, she did not  anticipate completion of                                                               
the audit during  the current legislative session.   Referring to                                                               
the Virus  Free Seed Potatoes  audit, she  stated that it  was 25                                                               
percent  complete,   with  a   projected  presentation   for  the                                                               
scheduled  March  28,  2012, committee  meeting.    She  directed                                                               
attention to the review of  the annual report from the Regulatory                                                               
Commission of Alaska  (RCA), as statute dictated that  the RCA be                                                               
audited every  two years.   She reported  that this audit  was 60                                                               
percent  complete, also  with a  projected  presentation for  the                                                               
March 28, 2012, committee meeting.   Referencing the still active                                                               
Matanuska  Maid  sale  audit,  which required  a  report  on  the                                                               
disposition  of the  assets,  she noted  that  the Department  of                                                               
Natural Resources (DNR) had not yet  sold one of the assets.  She                                                               
specified that  upon the sale of  this asset, the audit  could be                                                               
closed.   In  response to  Chair Hawker,  she explained  that the                                                               
remaining asset was a parcel of land in Palmer.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:11:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS pointed out that,  as six boards and commissions would                                                               
be  terminated on  June 30,  2013,  each would  require an  audit                                                               
during  the upcoming  year and  therefore, the  Legislative Audit                                                               
Division would  need to staff  accordingly.  She listed  these as                                                               
the  Board of  Marine  Pilots, the  Alaska  State Medical  Board,                                                               
Alaska Board of Public  Accountancy, Statewide Suicide Prevention                                                               
Council,  Special Education  Service Agency,  and the  Alaska Bar                                                               
Association.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:12:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CURTIS, in  response to  Chair Hawker,  confirmed that  this                                                               
would be a high work load for the Legislative Audit Division.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:13:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HAWKER   presented  the  first  of   two  submitted  audit                                                               
requests.   He  defined the  Knik Arm  Bridge and  Toll Authority                                                               
(KABATA) audit  as a  status request, not  a financial  audit, in                                                               
order to disclose where the  current project started, what it was                                                               
doing, and what  involvement was taking place  between the public                                                               
and  private partnership,  and to  include a  description of  the                                                               
funding  received, spent,  and  anticipated.   He  asked that  it                                                               
incorporate an  evaluation of the  projections and  parameters to                                                               
the project to be used as benchmarks to future considerations.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:14:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN, identifying  himself  as  a KABATA  board                                                               
member, expressed  his agreement that many  communities wanted to                                                               
review the  project.  In reference  to the recent fiscal  note on                                                               
KABATA  submitted by  the Department  of Transportation  & Public                                                               
Facilities,  he  declared that  there  would  not be  any  fiscal                                                               
impact  to  the state  if  the  expected  income from  tolls  was                                                               
received.    He  reported  that the  administration  was  writing                                                               
language "to  make sure we  got some  sideboards on this  for the                                                               
state's liability, so it's not open  ended on that."  He directed                                                               
attention to the  KABATA website, which he declared  to have been                                                               
thoroughly  vetted  by more  than  one  hundred public  meetings.                                                               
Observing that  Governor Parnell fully supported  the project, he                                                               
declared that  he welcomed the  audit, as  this had been  an open                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:16:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MENARD  disclosed  that  she was  also  a  KABATA  board                                                               
member,  albeit   a  non-voting  member.     She  questioned  the                                                               
necessity of an audit, endorsing  KABATA as capable of presenting                                                               
the requested information.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HAWKER, in  response to Senator Menard,  explained that the                                                               
purpose of an independent state audit was:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     to verify and validate  information that is represented                                                                    
     to us  from sources  in which  we may  or may  not have                                                                    
     confidence. ...  It's a  report to the legislature that                                                                    
     is developed in accordance  with national standards for                                                                    
     accounting,  reporting functions  for review  by people                                                                    
     that are absolutely independent  of the project, rather                                                                    
     than  folks   on  the  board  of   the  project  making                                                                    
     representations  related  to  their  project,  or  even                                                                    
     members of that project.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HAWKER  concluded that  it  was  necessary for  the  audit                                                               
process  to  maintain,  in  both fact  and  in  appearance,  "the                                                               
absolute  independence  and  objectivity  of this  panel  ...  in                                                               
making  the legislative  decision as  to  whether to  ask for  an                                                               
audit to  be completed."   He declared that it  was inappropriate                                                               
for the  record of  testimony to have  a potential  auditee being                                                               
seen as potentially influencing the outcome of a decision.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:18:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MENARD  declared that  she "just wanted  to go  on record                                                               
that  I'm  comfortable  with  the  audit,  but  they're  [KABATA]                                                               
squeaky clean  and I just would  question why we can't  get a lot                                                               
of the information off the website."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:19:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEDMAN, referencing  the two  major bridge  projects in                                                               
Alaska  during  the previous  decade,  pointed  out that  he  had                                                               
requested the audit  for the Gravina Bridge project,  in order to                                                               
clarify "what is on the table."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:19:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MENARD, offering her support  to the audit, declared:  "I                                                               
have that attitude I think it's  stellar what they have done, and                                                               
so, we'll  just be  sharing it  with the  full committee  and I'm                                                               
comfortable with that."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:20:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN moved to approve the  request for an audit of the                                                               
Knik  Arm Bridge  Toll Authority  (KABATA) as  presented.   There                                                               
being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:20:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HAWKER noted that the  second audit request was in response                                                               
to public concern  for the use of independent  contractors at the                                                               
Office of  Public Advocacy (OPA).   He acknowledged  that earlier                                                               
discussions with  the Legislative Audit Division  had resulted in                                                               
agreement that  there was a  legitimate question that  the hiring                                                               
and employment  of third party contractors  resulted in potential                                                               
issues of  discrimination in the  community and was  in violation                                                               
of procurement codes.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:22:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEDMAN  moved to  approve the request  for the  audit of                                                               
the Office of Public Advocacy's  procurement practices related to                                                               
personal services  contracts.  There  being no objection,  it was                                                               
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
^Other Committee Business                                                                                                     
                    Other Committee Business                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
8:22:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HAWKER asked if there was any other business to be brought                                                                
before the committee.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:22:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the                                                                       
Legislative Budget and Audit Committee meeting was adjourned at                                                                 
8:22 a.m.                                                                                                                       

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